i think obama is shattering that in saying there is a real policy debate on iran. hagel is going to prompt a real policy debate. he's opposed sanctions in the past, opposed military action. i think obama is at least, whether he wants to or not, sending a signal that he's much less eager to have military action against iran than at least a lot of republicans in the senate. >> fascinating. >> that's going to show up in a web video. >> is it really? >> you did good. >> i appreciate that. >> you didn't say all those words -- >> trained not to? >> only buzzfeed could buzzfeed it out, though. >> i don't even know what that means, chuck. >> i don't quite either, but do you it. >> chuck todd, final prediction, i alabama/notre dame. >> i'm sticking with what i stuck with a month ago, double digits, 'bama. >> roll tide. >> ben, thank you. >> thank you, ben. >>> the young innovators and entrepreneurs who are all ready to become the stars of tomorrow. we're going to go through "forbes'" 30 under 30 list straight ahead. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] staples is the num